Talk:Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan (1996–2001)

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Motto (again)[edit]

The motto is listed as the Shahada, but this claim is comnpletely unverified. I have no doubt that the Shahada is central to Afghan's of all political persuasions, but there is no reason to believe that it is/was specifically the motto of the Emirate. Indeed common sense would tend to suggest that such a universal statement of Muslim faith is unsuited to being the motto of anywhere specific. I asked the same question before the article was 'split off' and no one could provide a source for the claim. Pincrete (talk) 17:02, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

"Totalitarian" is back in the infobox[edit]

The use of "totalitarian" here lacks a reliable source that explains its applicability to the 1990s Emirate. I previously commented on problems with the two sources that had been cited; they said almost nothing at all about Afghanistan, and were cited only because they used the words "totalitarian" and "Afghanistan" in proximity. A more fundamental problem is that labeling a government "totalitarian" does not say much about its organization, and is more about saying what the government is not. This is an example of a source that describes, rather than characterizes, the Taliban government: it was a unitary emirate administered through a system of shura councils, among which the Kandahar central shura, Kabul shura and military shura were preeminent. (talk) 01:39, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Change "totalitarian theocracy" to "theocratic emirate", because "totalitarian" lacks an explanatory source and is not a form of government but a moral judgement. Also replace the citation to Gunaratna (which deals with the late US war period) and substitute Rashid (2010) which is more pertinent and is already cited elsewhere in the article. (talk) 16:01, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. ✨ Ed talk! ✨ 02:06, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

Respectfully, the concerns here are (1) poor sourcing with regard to "totalitarian" (previously discussed, changed, and then rolled back along with weeks of other changes) (2) the use of another source (Gunaratna) that doesn't relate to the time frame of the article vs. a definitive work that does. About what should I obtain consensus, with whom? (talk) 02:48, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

I sympathise to the extent that if WP:RS cannot be found for "totalitarian", it should not be there. I would suggest simply 'Islamic theocracy'. 'Emirate' is largely meaningless in this context as it normally means 'somewhere ruled by an Emir' - which doesn't actually apply in this case. Pincrete (talk) 16:35, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

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No source for "This is the Home of the Brave". Haffaz (talk) 08:52, 16 October 2021 (UTC)